evan_tech -- tireIronNinja

03:14 pm, 1 Jan 08

tireIronNinja

So Dean made this sketchy program called "socketNinja", not really intending to distribute it, and then it became part(?) of Metasploit and distributed. The comments at the top were never updated, and remain:

# Yo yo, this be da socketNinja.
# Alpha-2.0 release
# Distribute and get a visit from tireIronNinja

which is fine and good until someone ITPs it for Debian and non-native English speakers on debian-legal try to unravel it. See the thread. I laughed.

mart	It amuses me that an idiom from C was used to explain an idiom from English. Presumably the C idiom was originally inspired by English, so I wonder if non-English speakers find it as intuitive as English speakers do.
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evan My (very weak) knowledge of Japanese is that they have a similar construction.

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  - evan If you have "A-te B", can't that sometimes mean "if A, B"?
    
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    - evan (Er, not "if" in the conditional sense, but in the sense of A implying B.)
      
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theorb	Er, so did Dean write to debian-legal (I don't see it there, but didn't do an exhaustive search) or the metasploit list and say that he's the upstream author and he'd relicense it or ask that they replace the code?
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perligata	I can't believe that guy doesn't think Debian is a cyborg, given the way the people in that thread rather unselfconsciously analyze the license. (And for anyone who cares, it seems they never resolved the issues.)
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houdini_cs Did your friend Dean let the Metasploit people use his code?

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- evan He is one of the Metasploit people, so I think the inclusion was intentional.
  
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  - houdini_cs Well, that's makes it easy.
    
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Anonymous good lord.

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- vanbeast ugh. That was me. Apparently I'm getting randomly logged out of LiveJournal on occasion!
  
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evan	My (very weak) knowledge of Japanese is that they have a similar construction.
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evan	If you have "A-te B", can't that sometimes mean "if A, B"?
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evan	(Er, not "if" in the conditional sense, but in the sense of A implying B.)
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houdini_cs	Did your friend Dean let the Metasploit people use his code?
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evan	He is one of the Metasploit people, so I think the inclusion was intentional.
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vanbeast	ugh. That was me. Apparently I'm getting randomly logged out of LiveJournal on occasion!
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houdini_cs	Well, that's makes it easy.
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