evan_tech -- a true story

03:16 pm, 28 Jul 06

a true story

(03:05:20 PM) [a friend]: Have you heard any [...]?
(03:12:22 PM) me: no, who's that
(03:12:39 PM) friend: [description]
(03:13:27 PM) friend: [URL]
(03:14:37 PM) me: heh, that page just crashes my browser
(03:14:43 PM) me: i hate flash so god damn much

Honestly, at this moment I cannot think of another technology I detest more. At least with other bad tech (Microsoft, PHP) I can simply avoid it, but Flash infects everything.

node
flash crash!
I sometimes (relatively rarely) run into pages where the javascript causes my browser to hang, but haven't had flash crash my browser in years.

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mart

Heh. You've just blacklisted the whole of Microsoft as bad tech? :) They make some good stuff, but I generally dislike them for non-technical reasons more than the technical.

I'm with you on the PHP thing, though!

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evan	The only real MS software I need to interact with are Windows (middling tech, though product activation problems with a legit copy are what finally turned me off of it), IE (awful tech), Windows Media (hateful tech), and Word files (hateful tech). They make plenty of good stuff too (the compiler comes to mind, and I hear Excel is good), but I don't get exposed to those.
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edge_walker	IE isn’t awful if you remember that it’s 1999 technology and was waaaaaay ahead of the pack at the time. What’s hateful is that it was abandoned for half a decade.
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mpnolan	I've noticed a tendency for band websites, which seems to be what you're talking about in the IM, to use Flash sites with built-in music players. It's a great example of things spreading just because everyone else is doing it.
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edge_walker

I’m actually not hating the use of Flash on Google Video and YouTube. Or other places where the sole point of the page is to watch something animated using Flash, but all the parts of the site that are not the animation/video do not require Flash.

It works a lot more reliably on my box than video/MP3 player plugins ever have.

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dan_erat If they release a few more versions without Linux ports, you won't need to worry about this. :P

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keitoen Let's hope Gnash improves quickly! I don't feel like installing the proprietary plugin on my computer.

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snej

Sounds like it's the implementation quality of the Linux Flash player you detest, more than the Flash technology itself. (I notice in a later post you tip your hat to the creativity of browser-based mini games.)

I don't know what technologies I detest. Java, maybe, for so thoroughly squandering its early promise — it's like the high school star athlete who after graduation becomes an unemployed 400-pound blob lying on the couch eating Cheez Doodles. Maybe I'm just mad at it for making me look like an idiot singing its praises (and working my tail off for it) for years.

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Anonymous I solve this by running amd64 ubuntu: no flash plugin. :-(

-stevej

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node	flash crash! I sometimes (relatively rarely) run into pages where the javascript causes my browser to hang, but haven't had flash crash my browser in years.
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dan_erat	If they release a few more versions without Linux ports, you won't need to worry about this. :P
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keitoen	Let's hope Gnash improves quickly! I don't feel like installing the proprietary plugin on my computer.
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Anonymous	I solve this by running amd64 ubuntu: no flash plugin. :-( -stevej
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evan_tech

a true story

flash crash!